, her multitude, her din of revelry and the jubilant within her, “Furthermore, wine betrays the haughty man, so that he does not stay at home. No wonder he felt overwhelmed. Your covenant with death will be canceled, and your pact with Sheol will not stand.”. It is the same thing as the lake of fire mentioned in Revelation Ch.20. Although being swallowed by a fish was equivalent to going to the grave… (who comes back from that?! Like Jonah, we must cry out to God before Sheol takes us and we lose out on the promise that one day, when our time on earth is done, we will meet YHWH face to face. In a hotbed of human depravity, a place that all God-following Jews avoided at every cost, Peter stood up and declared the divinity of Yeshua. Death. David, perhaps under the guidance of Samuel, knew God had the ability to raise up life and death. WHAT IS “GEHENNA?” IS THAT THE SAME AS HELL? Hades is a Greek term used in the New Testament as a rough equivalent to the Hebrew word sheol and also describes the grave or location of the dead. Selah. So I said, ‘, The finality of Sheol is the horrific thought of becoming nothingness, remembered no longer, without, But did YHWH really have a plan that would save us from the fate of Sheol? "Gehenna" is said to be a "fire that shall never be quenched". For official apologetics resources please visit. This topic was automatically closed 14 days after the last reply. Remember what my span of life is; for what vanity You have created all the sons of men! Why do You hide Your face from me? Sorting out Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, the Abode of the Just, and Hell What happened to Christ after He died? It was hell flourishing on earth. ; and they will be an abhorrence to all mankind.”, Isaiah looked forward to the new heaven and the new earth where, , because you travel around on sea and land to make, Sacrifice was never the plan for humans. Atheists believe that at the end of life there is nothing; the pit of nothingness is all there is. According to Jesus, gehenna or hell is where both the body and soul are destroyed (Matthew 10:28). Death, chaos and destruction were what the Adversary loved and what YHWH despised. Therefore, behold, days are coming,” declares YHWH, “when it will no longer be called Topheth, or the valley of the son of Hinnom  [w-gei ben-hinnom], but the valley of the Slaughter; for they will bury in Topheth because there is no other place. If I ascend to heaven, You are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. It should also be noted that Heman mentioned. Your pomp and the music of your harps have been, are spread out as your bed beneath you and. So they and all that belonged to them, from the midst of the assembly. . ”. Comparison To Hades Gehenna is not Hades. How could God save David from the grave? As was first mentioned, people have many definitions for the word hell. He thanked God for saving him from going to the pit of nothingness: Isaiah 38:9-11, 17-19a (Hezekiah’s prayer). The Adversary had it backwards; from his desire to be at the top, he fell to the lowest depths. Sarah has a Master of Arts degree in Early Medieval Studies from the University of York in England. For there is no mention of You in death; in Sheol [bish’ohl] who will give You thanks? YHWH is everywhere, but those who go down to Sheol would be cut off, they would not see YHWH and there would be no hope. Prior to Jesus’ atonement for the sins of man, the souls of all who died went to a place called Sheol (Hebrew).It is defined as the world of the dead, the underworld, and, in the Old Testament, the word is translated into English as the pit, the grave, and hell. Yeshua was pointing the finger directly at the Pharisees… they were taking sons, children of YHWH, and converting them to evil, no differently than sacrificing children directly to Ba’al or Molech. Sacrifice was never the plan for humans. This is a fascinating passage. Yeshua was making a startling claim… and the Pharisees would get it. Gehinnom is not Hell, but originally a grave and in later times a sort of purgatory where one is judged based on one's life's deeds, or rather, where one becomes fully aware of one's own shortcomings and negative a Too many people get their idea of Hell not from the Bible, but from literary works such as Dante's Inferno and Paradise Lost (fictional stories). You have made known to me the ways of life; You will make me full of gladness with Your Presence.’, Brethren, I may confidently say to you regarding the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. Jesus’ comment would seem to suggest that hell may be somewhere within Hades. For Sheol cannot thank You, death cannot praise You; those who go down to the pit cannot hope for Your faithfulness. The English (as also Luther’s German) version of the New Testament translates Hades and Gehenna by the same word ‘hell’, and thus obliterates the important distinction between the realm of the dead (or nether-world, spirit-world), and the place of torment or eternal punishment; but in the Revision of 1881 the distinction is restored, and the term Hades introduced.” Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The Hebrew is “Ge-Hinnom.” This ravine or valley is just outside of Jerusalem to the southwest. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Therefore, a word that is commonly translated as “hell” in the New Testament, gehenna does not in fact refer to a place of burning torture or torment in the afterlife. was used by the Gospel writers. And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb, but when they entered, of the Lord Jesus. Will Your wonders be made known in the darkness? Going down into the dust was a common metaphor for death, and it still is. Yeshua stood in the village which held (many believed) the gate of Hades and he preached that the gate of Hades would never overcome his kingdom of followers. Each occurs twelve times. In the New Testament, Abaddon (Apollyon in Greek) was the name of the king of the bottomless, smoky, pit, also known as the angel of the abyss, from John’s Revelation (9:11). In addition to being intensely hot, Gehenna was also said to exist in the depths of darkness. Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. , that You would conceal me until Your wrath returns to You, that You would set a limit for me and. Job addressed this: “Remember that my life is but breath; my eye will not again see good. Yeshua stood in the village which held (many believed) the gate of Hades and he preached that the gate of Hades would never overcome his kingdom of followers. It was deplorable to God, and so he renamed the place the Valley of Slaughter. Who wanted to ascend to the heights, but instead was thrust down to Sheol? It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent to sheol is hades, which is also a general reference to “the place of the dead.” The Greek word gehenna is used in the New Testament for “hell” and is derived from the Hebrew word hinnom. Fifth, Hades is not the place of eternal bliss for the … Learn how your comment data is processed. The Hinnom Valley in Jerusalem is basically a deep, fine narrow valley on the south end of Jerusalem. For David says of Him, ‘I saw YHWH always in my presence; for He is at my right hand, so that I will not be shaken. Therefore my heart was glad and my tongue exulted; moreover, . But is it really possible to be separated from YHWH? Hades is a temporary place of the dead where only their souls exist. But if YHWH brings about an entirely new thing and the ground opens its mouth and swallows them up with all that is theirs, and they descend alive into Sheol [Sh’ohlah], then you will understand that these men have spurned YHWH.”, As he finished speaking all these words, the ground that was under them split open; and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, and their households, and all the men who belonged to Korah with their possessions. He, . I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and. He keeps the feet of His godly ones, but the wicked ones are silenced in darkness; for not by might shall a man prevail.”. “, It wasn’t a question of “if He could”, it was a question of “if He. It was the Messiah who would deliver us from the grave. Paul, despite referring to Hades numerous times, never uses the word “Gehenna” in all his letters which were addressed to Greek-speaking Gentiles. Never one to hold back when addressing the Jewish leaders of the day, He condemned their behaviour with these words: “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one convert; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell [geennes] as yourselves.”. But he also called God out… where is the promise that you swore to David. Sheol, hades and hell are basically the same thing: "hell" is English, "sheol" is Hebrew "hades" is Greek; So let's use the word "hell" since that's our English word for it. It was the preparation day, and the Sabbath was about to begin. SHEOL/HADES: THE PRESENT HELL. The spices were prepared to mask the scent of rot, but they were not needed. “For there is hope for a tree, when it is cut down, that it will sprout again, and its shoots will not fail. That may sound strange, but by the time you’re finished reading this posting I hope you end up feeling the same way. Excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given to Sarah E. Fisher and hebrewwordlessons.com with appropriate and specific direction to the original content. They make night into day, saying, ‘The light is near,’ in the presence of darkness. Those who see you will gaze at you, they will ponder over you, saying, ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble, who shook kingdoms, who made the world like a wilderness and overthrew its cities, who did not allow his prisoners to go home?’, All the kings of the nations lie in glory, each in his own tomb. He also gathers to himself all nations and collects to himself all peoples.”. Who can escape the grave? “Remember me!” said Job; “Remember what my life span is!” said Ethan. Sheol, hades and hell are basically the same thing: "hell" is English, "sheol" is Hebrew "hades" is Greek; So let's use the word "hell" since that's our English word for it. A Quick word on Hades. For the waves of death, , yes, I cried to my God; and from His temple He heard my voice, and. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. But YHWH kept every promise He made, and He promised Salvation. O Death, where are your thorns? The ultimate fate of the wicked is suffering outside of the gates of the New Jerusalem. However, unauthorized use and/or duplication of this material without express and written permission from this site’s author is prohibited. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, : The views and opinions expressed in these forums do not necessarily reflect those of Catholic Answers. And so He answered their question with a question: “Shall I ransom them?… Shall I redeem them?”. In the New Testament the concept of Sheol gets translated into English as “Hell”, but Yeshua used two different Greek words (for the English “Hell”): Hades and Gehenna. And if you are a child of YHWH, it’s better to do these drastic measures than be thrown to the place where the gods of evil sacrificed children; the place that YHWH called the Valley of Slaughter, where people become a meal to birds and beast, in a perverted and polluted land. Everyone dies. Historically the English word for hell has the following history and origin (1): Job squarely places the biggest question in front of us: How long, O YHWH? It is an allusion and alternate name to refer to the hell of the damned. ? Scripture passages in which Gehenna is used should be distinguished from those using Hades, which refers to a place of temporary torment that we might refer to as the immediate, or present, Hell. SHEOL, HADES, PARADISE AND GEHENNA. Hades vs. gehenna. . View all posts by hebrewwordlessons. Gehenna = Hinnom = the valley on the south side of Jerusalem where Molech worship took place, which involved child sacrifice. You have been cut down to the earth, you who have weakened the nations! Death, chaos and destruction were what the Adversary loved and what YHWH despised. I will give thanks to You, O Lord my God, with all my heart, and will glorify Your name forever. Habakkuk pointed out that Sheol was always hungry and death was always looking for more to eat: “Furthermore, wine betrays the haughty man, so that he does not stay at home. And on the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment. Sheol is not hell… at least not in the sense of our present cultural interpretation of the place, (a place of eternal suffering  and damnation, with fire and brimstone and torment). It’s fascinating that in the Gospel account of Mark, Yeshua started his diatribe about hell (or the Valley of Ginnom) with a child in his arms. For You had cast me into the deep, into the heart of the seas, and the current engulfed me. They are all mentioned in Scripture. Will Your wrath burn like fire? Gei Hinnom eventually becomes, in English, Gehenna, and in Greek Geenna or Geennan. O Sheol, where is your sting? He who believes in it will not be disturbed. In its heyday, it was a place of debauchery, where the Greeks celebrated the goat god Pan with acts of prostitution and bestiality. If we all go to the grave, what does. When used as a term for the dead, it was a way of noting a place of judgment in the afterlife. Here was his response after he heard that his son Joseph had died (although really, he had not): So Jacob tore his clothes, and put sackcloth on his loins and mourned for his son many days. Fourth, Hades is not 'heaven,' i.e., the place where the soul of the righteous goes at death to await the coming resurrection, because the Greek word ouranos is the word for heaven in the New Testament. For the sons of Judah have done that which is evil in My sight,” declares YHWH, “they have set their detestable things in the house which is called by My name, to defile it. It is the place of the final “2 nd death” of utter destruction. Third, Hades is not 'hell,' i.e., the place of final punishment for the wicked, because the Greek word Gehenna is the word for 'hell' in the New Testament. Where are Your former lovingkindnesses, O Lord, which You swore to David in Your faithfulness? Then Jonah prayed to YHWH his God from the stomach of the fish, and he said, “I called out of my distress to YHWH, and He answered me. Sing praise to the YHWH, you His godly ones, and give thanks to His holy name. Understanding the Hebrew Bible one Word at a time. Yeshua had to defeat death before we could be redeemed. Judaism even agrees that there will be a "Gehenna" after the Messiah comes, but erroneously thinks a wicked soul will only stay there … Lift your arms towards God, He will pull you out of Sheol and place you in His Presence. Hell - Norse, the realm of the Dead, ruled over by Hela, daughter of Loki, a place of cold. They will all respond and say to you, ‘Even, . As they had their pasture, they became satisfied, and being satisfied, their heart became proud; therefore they forgot Me…. But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared. It was the preparation day, and the Sabbath was about to begin. ( Log Out /  They are all mentioned in Scripture. In a hotbed of human depravity, a place that all God-following Jews avoided at every cost, Peter stood up and declared the divinity of Yeshua. As @Porthos11 explained, it was originally the name of a valley just outside the Jerusalem city walls. The earth and the works therein shall all be burned up (2 Peter 3:10), but they … Unlike Sheol, the fish was alive… and from life there was hope. If these men die the death of all men or if they suffer the fate of all men, then YHWH has not sent me. Today it is known as Wadi er-Rababi. The religion of Persia at the time was Zoroastrianism, which had a profound effect on Judaism (and therefore Christianity). Yeshua never shied away from talking about hell, or heaven for that matter. No one was in heaven before Jesus came onto the scene. Then Jonah prayed to YHWH his God from the stomach of the fish, and he said, “I called out of my distress to YHWH, and He answered me. Feminine Noun. And he said, “Surely. which I make will endure before Me,” declares YHWH, “So your offspring and your name will endure. The word hell does not appear in the Greek New Testament; instead one of three words is used: the Greek words Tartarus or Hades, or the Hebrew word Gehinnom. Interesting that both Job and Ethan talked about being forgotten in Sheol. “How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning [shining one], son of the dawn! Haidees (Hades) is one of the three Greek words (haidees, tartaroo, geenna) that the King James Version of the Bible translates as “hell”. Many passages indicated that when you went down to Sheol you didn’t get to come back. Gei Hinnom eventually becomes, in English. With a careful study of the text, you come to realize that Yeshua used this word, instead of Hades, to make a specific point. All Israel who were around them fled at their outcry, for they said, “The earth may swallow us up!”. Therefore thus says the Lord YHWH, “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone. But I, O YHWH, have cried out to You for help, and in the morning my prayer comes before You. All Your breakers and billows passed over me. It is the living who give thanks to You, as I do today…”. He will not return again to his house, nor will his place know him anymore.”. Let my prayer come before You; incline Your ear to my cry! Essentially Yeshua was saying: sacrifice yourself, before you sacrifice one of My children! Though its roots grow old in the ground and its stump dies in the dry soil, at the scent of water it will flourish and put forth sprigs like a plant. No one was in heaven before Jesus came onto the scene. Here’s the thing, WE can’t find God in Sheol but HE can find us anywhere. Or where can I flee from Your presence? So I said, ‘I have been expelled from Your sight. (Strong’s 7585). If your eye causes you to stumble, throw it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be cast into hell [ten geennan], where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.”. After Yeshua’s death and resurrection, Peter delivered a poignant message. There is another place that begins with a “t”, although I don’t have my Bible in front of me. And it shall be from and from sabbath to sabbath, all mankind will come to bow down before Me,” says YHWH. Instead, the word gehenna refers to a literal place outside the walls of Jerusalem. Then I will make to cease from the cities of Judah and from the streets of Jerusalem the voice of joy and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride; for the land will become a ruin.”. Selah. In the New Testament the concept of Sheol gets translated into English as “Hell”, but Yeshua used two different Greek words (for the English “Hell”): Hades and Gehenna. But man dies and lies prostrate. He also deals with the errors of soul sleep and annihilationism. After Yeshua was raised up onto the cross, He came down and was buried in the grave… but Sheol could not hold Him down. Therefore, hear the word of YHWH, O scoffers, who rule this people who are in Jerusalem, because you have said, “, The overwhelming scourge will not reach us when it passes by, for we have made. It is the same thing as the lake of fire mentioned in Revelation Ch.20. Where can I go from Your Spirit? Your wrath has rested upon me, and You have afflicted me with all Your waves…. 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